Christians in election year 2016, responding to a friend

You know I’m a Christian and yet I guess you respect my opinion enough to tag me in this post. Thank you. i will answer from my perspective. keep in mind please that I have read the article and comments several times and am responding to it all in whole.

First thing that caught my eye is the idea you posed to David “. I asked you to share what you prayerfully considered such that spreading hate could be reconciled with a proclaimed Christian faith.” I have seen and heard this question and similar ones thrown around a lot.  Its a loaded statement. obviously we shouldn’t. You could also say, how can Christians vote for criminals?  Fill in the blank with any kind of shameful wrongful act, the entire political system is full of it. you cant pit one candidate against another because all are wrong. All sin is the same. if its wrong its wrong. It’s in our politicians and our leaders and in our media and our pop culture. Because it’s in all people.

Abortion is a big deal but it’s not just the unborn babies lives that matter.  It is all lives- babies, special needs kids, impoverished families, our military, our rich citizens, old and young, no matter their beliefs. I have to admit Clinton poses a threat to life of all kinds. It scares me to think, who determines life or death. if a baby hours or weeks even before it’s born can be aborted due to financial reasons or maturity of the parents or even for those babies who are found to have severe health impairments, who is to stop those same arguments from coming against all citizens? you may think that sounds barbaric but that’s where the downhill slope goes.

Then there is Trump. I will not, cannot defend him. He is pompous, full of hate, degrading, and ignorant.

 Yet I don’t hate anyone who voted for either of them. Democrats want to take care of their country and citizens and cultures by the things they stand for. They think the government should help out people more. I get that. Republican equally love their families and land. They believe a smaller government can give the people freedom to care for each other. I get that too.  That’s the basic boiled down difference.  Both ways are good. Both ways are bad.  Both ways restrict people, both help people.

So that’s the political side. Now lets throw in the Christian faith.

Many times when I’m asked a question the answer is “both”.

Free will or predestination? both. God gives us free will or it would not be love with which we would come to Him. But He has to present Himself to us clearly enough at the same time because we would not seek Him out on our own.

Faith or works? Both.  God gives grace freely apart from works, but when you experience that grace it leads you to do good deeds.

Love or justice? Both. God is a just God. love cannot be shown if there’s not justice involved. I will get into that more in just a moment.

Concerning the Bible-

Jesus’ words are set in the historical context of the bible therefore the conglomeration of books should be looked at as part of the whole “gospel” that Jesus preached. However, even looking at only the words of Jesus there is the same message that permeates the rest of scripture, mainly because the other books are all about Him.

the books of the bible were chosen for their defensible authenticity and their first hand account of God’s people, Jesus, and the work of His disciples. also everything included is completely congruent with the words of Jesus Himself.

true- the new testament books were chosen by men but based upon these a fore mentioned attributes. Revelation was written by the apostle John and though there was a worry it was too metaphorical it was still an account by a disciple of Jesus, and it is congruent with other prophetical descriptions in the entire cannon.

The old testament books are the collection of the history and laws of the Israelite people. They reference Jesus and Jesus references that those books portray Him. He didn’t come to abolish the Law given by God in the first covenant but He came to fulfill it.
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this leads us to His justice. you cant have love without justice. He loved sinners.

From the article: “Evangelical at its root means evangel or “good news.” We proclaim to follow a man who chose to affiliate himself with the poor and dispossessed, who called the political and religious leaders of his day to account, who saw and loved people whom others had discarded.”

we are all sinners and He loves us, but it is not a frivolous love condoning these sins or accepting them. instead, He meets sinners where they are, and demands a change. His love is just. real love is not shown when a parent lets their kids get their way. instead, true love is loving someone too much to let them do something to their own detriment. He said He did not come to the world to condemn it because we were all already condemned but He came that through Him we may be saved from that condemnation. He is the only one who gives life (in the greek it is “zoe” which is as opposed to physical “bios” life, is the essence of life). Jesus said  “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14)

 

our judicial system is based on Biblical principles even though the verdicts do not always line up with scripture. but we have to remember that the idea of justice comes from the permanence of basic true human values.

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the reason we are so divisive is two fold. 1: Jesus’ words are divisive.

 

and here is a good example of the consistency throughout the bible. we have Jesus words, words from an old testament psalmist, a hebrew proverb, and a prophecy from the divinely accurate prophet Isaiah, then finally with the gospel preacher to the hebrew people in the early set up of the church post Jesus’s return to heaven:

John 3
17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God..

John 12:48
There is a judge for the one who rejects Me and does not receive My words: The word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.



Hebrews 4:12For the word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires.

Isaiah 49:2
He has made My mouth like a sharp sword, In the shadow of His hand He has concealed Me; And He has also made Me a select arrow, He has hidden Me in His quiver.
Proverbs 5:4
But in the end she is bitter as wormwood, Sharp as a two-edged sword.
Psalm 149:6
Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, And a two-edged sword in their hand,

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2: the people we have to vote for have been far from godly leaders for a long time. thus we have not platform we can stand on to uphold Jesus’s example.

 

So the horror and dread Christians feel, and I feel as well as you is because of all of this, not because Christians voted for Trump. You are right, it’s not a republican or democratic thing, because either option this year is a result of the immorality pervasive in all people. we are reaping what we have sown.